quinara: Spike smoking on a crate. (Spike crate)
[personal profile] quinara
Oh, the Romans... Sometimes Always they amuse me so. As part of trying to work out whether or not we can say whether there was any sort of moral/sexual geographical zoning in Pompeii (say whether there was a 'red light district', to quote an exam paper - I say not in literal terms, but in ideology/perception/phenomenology yes, definitely) I've been reading the records of inscriptions around the town - ie. the dirty graffiti, basically.

Most of it isn't that interesting - 'Jimmy fucked Sheila', 'I had a fuck here', 'Terry sucks cock', 'Alice will fuck you for X amount of cash' etc. (No, these are not their real names.) But every now and then some randomer comes up with a piece of sheer brilliance, such as this one (CIL IV 1882, for anyone who knows what the heck that means) from the basilica (big posh building in the forum where meetings and stuff are held):

ACCENSVM QVI PEDICAT VRIT MENTVLAM

which basically means

HE WHO FUCKS ARSE BURNS HIS COCK AS KINDLING

I mean, why would you write that on a building? I just don't understand! You can tie it into the issues and anxieties surrounding penetration, which was a Big Deal in the Roman (Stoic) psyche, because you didn't just get penetrated in nasty sex (in which, oh noes, even if you're doing it right you can't penetrate somebody without them being being penetrated - and that means you're having good sex right next to someone begetting nastiness, and HOW DO YOU AVOID TEH SHAME??), but by stabby feelings of hunger and disease and overwhelming emotion (*cough* Cupid shoots arrows *cough*). So the fear of getting burnt up when you as Mr. Man are doing pretty well is perhaps not such a surprising sentiment to see... But, at the same time, who comes up with that sort of aphorism and decides that it is SO TRUE that they have to go into the forum and write it up for everyone else to read?? Do we think they were drunk?

I think one of the things I really like about looking at this sort of stuff is that it can be so random. You get Virgil quotes in amongst the multitude 'XXX woz ere' and 'VOTE YYY', and random people playing around - one graffito I loved that I got shown a while ago now was from a doorway, where someone had written 'fullones ululamque cano, non arma uirumque' ('Of fullers and an owl I sing, not arms and a man') - I still think it has the most amazing wistful tone, even though it's essentially just silly. It's like when I went in a public loo a few weeks ago and someone had taken a black marker pen to the sanitary bin, writing 'DOUBT THOU THE STARS ARE FIRE'. Why?? We're never going to know...

Best street lit. I've ever seen, though, was this poem written inside a suitcase wired to a fence above a bicycle, in Berlin a couple of years back:

du erde von mir / she's grew up in transition / Vodaphone transmission / fühlen leiden lieben lenken / in den ebenen seitwärts denken / lichte hoehe stahlbeton / kantholz mauerwerk balkon / fertig roh aus einem trichter / hochgebet schleift dich der dichter / alles schreit nach mass als geld ist / du bist alles gold was welt misst.

I don't know if I can translate it properly, but I think(?? - someone help me here!) an English version would be something like:

You World by Me. 17/18/4
she's grew up in transition
Vodaphone transmission
feel suffer love control
think sideways on the plains
headroom ferroconcrete
timber brickwork balcony
roughly finished from a funnel
the poet scrapes you high prayer
everything screams to measure is made from money
you're all gold what the world measures

.

How brilliantly random is that???

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Date: 12/05/2010 17:40 (UTC)
sister_luck: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sister_luck

Indeed brilliantly random and a brilliant translation, too.

The last-but-one line is especially difficult - I find it hard to find a subject for ist and thus would ignore it in a translation:

everything screams for a measure made of money (is)

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Date: 12/05/2010 18:04 (UTC)
sister_luck: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sister_luck

That works a little better and gives ist something to do - it's slightly counter-intuitive - I'd expect it to be ist aus Geld, but then the rhyme would disappear. Either way, not much sense-making.

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Date: 12/05/2010 18:25 (UTC)
sister_luck: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sister_luck

I'm not sure, but I assume the poem was written for this location specifically - or at least for a building site because we've got three lines about construction and pouring concrete. Whether it's been composed in situ there's no way of telling.

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Date: 13/05/2010 00:26 (UTC)
stultiloquentia: Campbells condensed primordial soup (Default)
From: [personal profile] stultiloquentia
What a great post.

Your burning cock sounds to me like a heartfelt warning about venereal disease.

I volunteer in a high school on Saturdays. I was musing just last week on the poignancy and hilarity to be found on the walls of the girls' bathroom.

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Date: 13/05/2010 01:47 (UTC)
sobsister: Headshot of Selina Kyle in Catwoman gear. (Default)
From: [personal profile] sobsister
Oh Romans indeed. I remember in high school our Latin teacher telling us about the cocks carved into the pavement at Pompeii, and the entire class seemed to decide right then and there we would visit there at least once in our lives.

It's nice to know graffiti is a human constant.

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Date: 16/05/2010 22:26 (UTC)
evilawyer: young black-tailed prairie dog at SF Zoo (Default)
From: [personal profile] evilawyer
I sometimes think everyone is drunk. Only that explains the randomness. But re: the Pompeii "burning cock" scrawl --- I don't necessarily think of the Roman empire as suffering from rampant homophobia, but maybe a few homophobes here and there got loose with chalk?

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Date: 17/05/2010 16:31 (UTC)
evilawyer: young black-tailed prairie dog at SF Zoo (Default)
From: [personal profile] evilawyer
We'll, we've still got the "everyone is drunk" theory to fall back on.

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